tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16483028.post114470882091519515..comments2023-11-11T03:34:32.826-05:00Comments on HoCo Hayduke: Another response to HoCoBlogHaydukehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09770056537577811703noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16483028.post-1144789085460135672006-04-11T16:58:00.000-04:002006-04-11T16:58:00.000-04:00For all of everyone's sake, let's hope your toilet...For all of everyone's sake, let's hope your toilet doesn't back up ever, regardless of the section of the paper you're reading at the time.<BR/><BR/>Although you have a point about DPZ managing public perception (however ineffective) and I hate getting into the role of defending DPZ, I seem to always go back to the thought that what we have now is a million times better than what we would have had if the charrette never happened. And doing too much harm to the process now could seriously endanger its credibility, which may ultimately leave us worse off.<BR/><BR/>Maybe I'm too patient, but I can't help but feel that we're asking too much in too soon a time frame. The master plan won't be approved until at least next year, and even then we're still just a few steps away from the starting line.Haydukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09770056537577811703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16483028.post-1144761488199401802006-04-11T09:18:00.000-04:002006-04-11T09:18:00.000-04:00Thankfully we do have 30 years to address the issu...Thankfully we do have 30 years to address the issue. Let’s not wait 30 years to address it. Maybe the sky isn’t falling, but they are legitimate questions.<BR/><BR/>I am all for TC redevelopment and the high density. Citizen input is great. That has been, if I am not mistaken, the long term plan for TC. When my kids are out of the house and my wife and I decide to downsize we will always talked about going back to Baltimore City. What I see happening with TC may make me reconsider retiring their. If that happens I don't want the toilet in my condo backing up on me while I am sitting down to read the Sunday comics.<BR/><BR/>Although we can’t predict what politicians might do with tax policy in 30 years, we have the ability to predict the redevelopment of TC with a lot more accuracy and provide ample information for long term planning.<BR/><BR/>Yes, it takes time. My sources' point is that DPZ isn't properly engaging DPW or MDE and those studies and processes take up to 5 years to get through (according to my source). They are addressing the public perceptions, managing the public view, presenting all the pretty drawings, but haven’t properly addressed the infrastructure. If true it needs to be called out now not later.<BR/><BR/>When Marsha McLaughlin says DPZ will address traffic problems as they occur (after the fact) that doesn't give me a lot of confidence.<BR/><BR/>I don't know a lot about these things (so I talk to people who do), but when I see the county spending $80M on upgrades (that are necessary) then I wonder about the impact of such density on those same systems and what is being done to address them. Just saying improvements will need to be made is not adequate – especially when that part of the planning can add 5 years to the process, and it may cost another $80M in improvements. That isn’t proper planning.<BR/><BR/>I do know that the kind of density being called for is not in the County's Master Plan, and the MP is used to guide the budget development process over 5 - 10 years.<BR/><BR/>The sooner DPW and MDE are engaged the better I would feel about the DPZ's work in leading this. Maybe Jim Irvin should be running this?hocobloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01990199720123836170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16483028.post-1144761355792569752006-04-11T09:15:00.000-04:002006-04-11T09:15:00.000-04:00Thankfully we do have 30 years to address the issu...Thankfully we do have 30 years to address the issue. Let’s not wait 30 years to address it. Maybe the sky isn’t falling, but they are legitimate questions.<BR/><BR/>I am all for TC redevelopment and the high density. Citizen input is great. That has been, if I am not mistaken, the long term plan for TC. When my kids are out of the house and my wife and I decide to downsize we will always talked about going back to Baltimore City. What I see happening with TC may make me reconsider retiring their. If that happens I don't want the toilet in my condo backing up on me while I am sitting down to read the Sunday comics.<BR/><BR/>Although we can’t predict what politicians might do with tax policy in 30 years, we have the ability to predict the redevelopment of TC with a lot more accuracy and provide ample information for long term planning.<BR/><BR/>Yes, it takes time. My sources' point is that DPZ isn't properly engaging DPW or MDE and those studies and processes take up to 5 years to get through (according to my source). They are addressing the public perceptions, managing the public view, presenting all the pretty drawings, but haven’t properly addressed the infrastructure. If true it needs to be called out now not later.<BR/><BR/>When Marsha McLaughlin says DPZ will address traffic problems as they occur (after the fact) that doesn't give me a lot of confidence.<BR/><BR/>I don't know a lot about these things (so I talk to people who do), but when I see the county spending $80M on upgrades (that are necessary) then I wonder about the impact of such density on those same systems and what is being done to address them. Just saying improvements will need to be made is not adequate – especially when that part of the planning can add 5 years to the process, and it may cost another $80M in improvements. That isn’t proper planning.<BR/><BR/>I do know that the kind of density being called for is not in the County's Master Plan, and the MP is used to guide the budget development process over 5 - 10 years.<BR/><BR/>The sooner DPW and MDE are engaged the better I would feel about the DPZ's work in leading this. Maybe Jim Irvin should be running this?hocobloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01990199720123836170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16483028.post-1144754980357660252006-04-11T07:29:00.000-04:002006-04-11T07:29:00.000-04:00How come you have all the sources? I don't have an...How come you have all the sources? I don't have any. It's no fair?<BR/><BR/>You source has a funny way of expressing a desire to see the TC plan succeed. <BR/><BR/>Anyway, a point that I forgot to make about this was development -- even high density stuff -- would have gone in TC, regardless of if we created a master plan. GGP had the right to develop commercially as they saw fit, with no input from the community.<BR/><BR/>Instead, in exchange for giving them some residential allocations, we took control of the planning process, something that happened only six months ago. We're working on a 30-year plan that affects almost every aspect of our lives. It's a little unreasonable, I'd say, for people to expect that in only six months we would go from no plan to fully developed master plan. This stuff takes time.Haydukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09770056537577811703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16483028.post-1144751820106253492006-04-11T06:37:00.000-04:002006-04-11T06:37:00.000-04:00Call me Judith Miller, but I stand by my source, w...Call me Judith Miller, but I stand by my source, who wants the TC project be successful. <BR/><BR/>This person has forgotten more about DPW/DPZ/GPD/MGP than I will ever know. I trust their judgement and experience.hocobloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01990199720123836170noreply@blogger.com